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Justin:
[0:29] That's the line it's preacher and the slave we're still going how's going jake

Jake:
[0:33] Hey it's good it's good to be back uh it's good i really like this episode i feel like i'm back in the world of preacher and i understand what's happening now yeah.

Justin:
[0:44] I it felt like there wasn't a whole lot explained but i'm still curious how how the show's being impressed on you

Jake:
[0:52] Yeah uh i guess because this is still new for me. You know, we had a little bit of a gap. We started the show and then Ice came to LA and I had to go get shot at in the streets and stuff.

Jake:
[1:06] And personal stuff came up. So it's been a minute. So I was a little worried that I was going to not have any idea what was happening when we jumped back in. But because this is kind of a slow episode, I think it helped me kind of establish stuff and catch back up. I really pay attention that much when we started doing this because I was just like.

Jake:
[1:25] I want to watch preacher it sounds cool but it sounds like um there's like four seasons of it so it's there's probably some connective tissue type episodes like this you know that uh just sort of just sort of like simmer for a while and yeah i'll be honest with you i didn't hate it it was really nice to like get the mood sit for a bit i do have some questions though there's one thing i didn't quite understand about the plot which is that i mean it makes sense now but uh part of the plot of this episode is that he like is discovering that he has this like a dune voice thing where he can command people and i i thought he already i thought he knew that he had that before but now i'm getting that he didn't and that's actually it made everything make sense in retrospect like how he killed the guy from those insurance commercials by talking to him and saying open up your heart he didn't realize he was doing that i thought he was a dick when he did that the first time. I thought he was, like, being really funny, which, like, makes sense kind of in the, you know, the dark humor of the series and everything. But I get it. It's even funnier that he was just using a turn of phrase.

Justin:
[2:37] Oh, that's funny. Yeah. Yeah, because at the very first episode, the... Like the spirit genesis i don't know if they named it yet goes into him because it like is exploding that preacher that other preacher and then it's like it's traveling the earth looking for a host and so he doesn't really know that it's in him he just kind of gets hit with it and goes what the hell was that and then he tells the guy to open his

Jake:
[3:06] Heart yeah all of that did not make sense to me and just now i'm like oh right it opens with just africa and then that other preacher exploding okay all right now i get the universe i think um this episode and this episode is about that it's called the possibilities because there's a whole thing where he's uh talking with the vampire guy about the possibilities for him having this superpower and it opens with a huge uh block letter establishment that they're in houston which is cool because i'm from there so yeah it all comes together okay i understand that make you felt nostalgic not really i don't know um i was just figuring i some of those things you just shout out where you're from at any given possibility but um you know what was the what was happening in the scene in houston two people sitting on a park bench wow really takes me back, yeah you know those park.

Justin:
[4:01] Days although speaking of uh ice um i don't know if you saw that you know when Ice was going through LA and they just walked through a park with a bunch of horses and they did it for no reason? Apparently there were camera crews there and they were making a promotional video. And so you see them tactically hopping a fence into an empty park. And I literally just started laughing. It was so fucking bizarre because like because we saw the people reporting on it beforehand. And then you see the stylized action video they made out of it. And it's just them walking through an empty fucking park in the middle of L.A.

Jake:
[4:44] Oh, that was the day that they were in MacArthur Park when no one could figure out why they brought all those horses there.

Justin:
[4:51] Yep.

Jake:
[4:52] That makes sense because I remember like they left after that. And a lot of, I'm sorry to do a little critique of the resistance here, but there was a lot of like posting about like how we drove them out of MacArthur Park and it like kind of didn't really read that way to me. It seemed like they just, it was just weird. Like no one could really put together why they dropped a bunch of horses in MacArthur Park, which is my old neighborhood, by the way, real shithole. And uh and uh then they they left and that makes total sense yeah.

Justin:
[5:28] Once i saw it i was like i immediately recognized the park and i was like that's so insane that that's what they were doing

Jake:
[5:36] That is also a wild place to film a video because macarthur park has it has been surrendered to the people that live in macarthur park for decades it is heroin needles everywhere and uh like the the veneer that it's like a public park is kind of an odd thing about it when you go there because there's still the signs up and stuff but it is like one of the poorest parts of los angeles and is just hamster dam you know so uh to do like a zoran mom donnie walking through the thing and And like looking at your camera and talking politics is like, there's just the potential for so many insane things to happen in the background. I saw a guy just driving straight through it the other day with all four of his tires somehow were like torn to shreds. He must have just driven through a barricade or something, but it was like, you know, just a really cool methed out truck guy. And he was being chased by cops. He was just like, they weren't even like trying to, I didn't even tell you they were trying to catch him. They were just like, sir, your wheels, like you're my God, you're driving on just metal, you know? And he was just like, fuck you, man. That's the type of thing you see in macarthur park so to film a commercial there fucking bananas.

Justin:
[6:58] Yeah that's fucking crazy all right i do have uh an obligation to do uh my my weird religious obsession uh stuff and so what i've been doing is getting back into this world of like right-wing watch and people for the american way and like all these old like stuff i got into like a decade or more ago um which is so weird because i'm like oh they're still blogging like they still got the blog going of like uh you know friendly atheists and all those people uh they're still there still doing like their their uh their new atheist thing which is very funny to me but um fucking uh i don't know why it does that i

Jake:
[7:47] Don't want to interrupt you but you're blurry not that it really.

Justin:
[7:50] Matters it's no it it auto focuses goes crazy i don't know why it does that but anyway i'm looking at those people and

Justin:
[8:02] It was strange. So what happened, like, the thing that I grabbed was July 7th, so about two weeks ago, there was, like, a court case, and I guess it had been filed, like, during the Biden administration, and the Trump admin says churches can endorse political candidates.

Justin:
[8:22] And basically makes any church, like, a tax-exempt super PAC. Other nonprofits in the same category can't do this. It's just churches and houses of worship. So that ban has been in place since like 1954 under like Lyndon B. Johnson. Trump has repeatedly called for its appeal and the IRS won't view it as campaigning, but as a private matter, like a family discussion concerning candidates. Uh which is interesting because churches are all on the internet now and so they can now endorse candidates on the radio or on the internet uh and it's very strange i don't know what's going to happen but essentially the irs never did anything about this in the past anyway uh when it did happen but churches nominally would try and stay in line of not endorsing I remember churches growing up would be like, well, you know who you should vote for, but we're not going to tell you. They would still try and stay on the right side of the law because their view of what's moral is what's legal, like most people.

Jake:
[9:34] Oh, that makes sense, yeah.

Justin:
[9:36] But yeah, I, um, I used to be, I just noticed something interesting when I was reading it, which is, I used to be like shocked by things like this. Um, and I think it was like part of like coming out of the church, but I like felt nothing reading this story. I'm like, yeah, of course, churches are allowed to just be, uh, super PACs now. Like, like I have no personal connection to them. They don't feel like they're betraying me anymore.

Jake:
[10:00] Yeah i feel like there's like levels of uh uh like acceptance going on where you go from like i can't believe this to i okay like i can see how this is happening to the third phase which is uh me right now which is um can i manipulate this for my own ends right can i become a church like what's the loophole here the more they like kind of just do away with the facade of actual static laws in government you gotta you gotta scam a little bit you know can we make this podcast legally a church that we don't have to pay taxes if we ever make money you know yes.

Justin:
[10:39] They covered this on john oliver so as long as we have like a statement of faith and we have a regular meeting which we do that's true all we got to say is like i believe it should be legal that we don't pay taxes

Jake:
[10:51] Wait should we have to do a statement of faith so we have to do a prayer we should write our own prayer it's about watching like an extra you.

Justin:
[11:04] Just add another bead to the rosary but it has like a little skull on it and it's black

Jake:
[11:08] Yeah and.

Justin:
[11:10] Like yeah that's the podcaster's prayer

Jake:
[11:13] The podcaster's prayer everyone stands at the beginning of every episode for the podcaster's prayer uh.

Justin:
[11:22] That'd be so great uh dear lord uh please give me the opportunities to meet someone with more clout as I have clouded upon others.

Jake:
[11:34] Please that sounds suspiciously similar to like an aa saying that please give me the opportunity please give me the courage to control the audio levels that i cannot control exactly.

Justin:
[11:46] I mean that's aa is all religious it's uh getting back to my new atheist phase that was uh a complaint about being told uh like being mandated to go to aa get the like well this is a religious thing

Jake:
[12:01] Hmm i've i remember having friends that would uh they would have to go to aa and or that would enjoy going to aa rather uh do it on purpose who were atheists and they would tell you um the loophole is the higher power doesn't have to be god it can be anything but to me that's just that never really worked for me because i um a continued drinking for fun but also b um i the higher power is the problem. I'm not what name it was. You know, I didn't want to be like, I didn't strike me as a good loophole to be like, Oh, I pray to my house. Like it's just, we're doing the same thing here. Right.

Justin:
[12:39] Yeah, exactly. Um, I also put in the notes, um, it's like this professor at the university I worked, I used to work at, had a whole like article in, um, the rear grand guardian. And the thing that just like shocked me from it was this uh wall mural which you see a lot of and uh it's like an it's just a big mural of an ice agent and then like hispanic jesus like touching his shoulder and it just says love thy neighbor yeah

Jake:
[13:15] I saw this in the notes and i'm i don't understand the message is it pro or anti-ice.

Justin:
[13:21] It's next to a mural for the u.s army so I'm thinking pro

Jake:
[13:28] I think yeah it sounds like it's.

Justin:
[13:29] I think it's like don't assault ice agents

Jake:
[13:31] Right because they keep coming out with all these statistics about how the you know it's 20 million.

Justin:
[13:36] Percent assault rate

Jake:
[13:38] Yeah i was just like well yeah because you're doing this right now i mean whatever i don't explain to you why it's dumb but uh that it's like please stop dehumanizing your ice agents that looks like the message of this mural and that's very funny because then also jesus is like a Mexican dude in the, I mean I'm explaining it but it's getting confusing again stuff like this always reminds me of like when the onion does like those purposely like meaningless political cartoons that are really funny like yeah don't you can't make heads or tails of them, I guess to them it makes sense you know.

Justin:
[14:14] Yeah this is literally like I probably I never drove past this one but yeah there's you get all kinds of weird like uh political murals in the valley and they all like kind of look like this uh just like a strange you know it's like someone in their dress uniform because they got killed and you know drunk driving or something and they're just like look at this hero son of mine uh you know yeah in their dress blues with their cowboy hat or whatever

Jake:
[14:46] Yeah i mean i guess it It's pretty easy to understand. The cop always has a halo over them or whatever. The way to decode this fucked up Bible-belty sort of political art is just to understand who they see as the main character of reality when they think about society. And that's the boys in blue. That's their son or whatever. you know it's never the people being affected by police institutions that's external it's.

Justin:
[15:23] More the bible cod piece at that latitude

Jake:
[15:26] Yeah fair but anyway um.

Justin:
[15:32] I did learn something interesting i don't know if most people know about this but every time that uh the national guard gets deployed to the border um it it causes a rash of suicides among guardsmen because they all hate being called up and they lose like their jobs and so every single time one of these governors is like we're gonna uh up the border uh with by by mobilizing the national guard there'll be like four or five dudes immediately just kill themselves because they're losing their dream job because they never expected to be called up.

Jake:
[16:06] Yeah, that's why you joined the National Guard, right? It's because you'd like, this is America. No one invades America in the traditional sense, so you're just getting paid to hang out. That's like the joke that everyone else tells about them in the military world, you know? National Guard, come on.

Justin:
[16:23] Yeah. And you once in a while get deployed or whatever, but yeah, they hate having to go on these deployments. And they don't want to be deployed in the U S and they lose like their jobs and shit. So every, every time they're like, we're sending in more national guard troops to LA. I'm like, all right, well, if we keep doing this, we're going to run out of them.

Jake:
[16:46] Yeah. Must suck to be an Imperial boomerang, you know, especially because if you took that job, you probably didn't have the foresight to know what that is going in.

Justin:
[16:57] Some of them did. They had a chance. they went to college and whatever like it's not your fault you didn't do the reading is that my fault you didn't do the reading all right so that's my wrap-up corner i'm uh i'm i'm diving back in i'm diving back into the weird shit so let's uh let's jump into the plot so the episode is the possibilities the first season of preacher the third episode overall aired on June 12th 2016 I forgot to look up what happened that day in history uh hang on I'm just gonna do that real quick oh fuck that's when the Pulse nightclub shooting happened alright that's the end of that fucking segment

Jake:
[17:45] That is not a fun one holy.

Justin:
[17:49] Shit uh just bummed

Jake:
[17:54] Myself out so bad.

Justin:
[17:56] I had a friend who was supposed to be there that night luckily she wasn't that's when I was living in Florida yeah

Jake:
[18:05] Oh, here's something else that happened. Hamilton sweeps the Tonys. There, that's a little bit lighter.

Justin:
[18:14] Yeah, probably slightly lower death count from Hamilton. Although, again, at least some of those dudes joined the National Guard because they loved the idea of Hamilton and service to country. And then they got deployed to LA. We'll see what happens to them.

Jake:
[18:32] They committed suicide because of Hamilton. It was supposed to win for best sound. I don't know.

Justin:
[18:40] Yeah, it's not an old enough show for that to be funny, because it's more fun. I got friends who do a My Little Pony recap, and they're like, today is the day we won the Iraq War, 2006. The war in Iraq was officially declared won.

Jake:
[18:58] Wow, that's a real sparkle anecdote. I don't know anything about My Little Pony.

Justin:
[19:05] I'm pretend I don't, but I do.

Jake:
[19:09] I saw the brony documentary. I know a little bit about it. I know there's a discord.

Justin:
[19:13] I haven't seen that.

Jake:
[19:14] It's a very, pretty interesting.

Justin:
[19:18] It's a dark, it's, it's, it's patches of dark and light, you know? Yeah. Post ponies is all delightful trans women. And then there's like brony lore that they get into that's like, okay, we all know what this is and we're going to move slightly along. And we're not going to talk about the guy who married twilight sparkle in his mind with his plushie and did some things i

Jake:
[19:48] Feel like i might have met these people and they asked me to come on their podcast and it got lost in the cracks years ago so that's true hit me up and i'll watch my little pony with you but in the highly possible event that it was another my little pony podcast uh whoever it was sorry we never looked.

Justin:
[20:07] Up i'll let them know they'll love to have you on like you said earlier we open in houston two of us meeting with this lady we've never seen before i don't think we ever see her again but she's trading a map for the last known uh address of some dude um and there's like a flashback of she says that's when her and jesse's relationship goes downhill um the lady she met goes by a theater to meet up with a man uh to get for the map um he's like in a he's like watching a snuff film it's not clear because they don't show up but it's just like screaming and it's like an old like uh like an old film theater so you you kind of given the idea that this is like um there's a there's a real depravity in this episode that's like simmering throughout this like Usually throughout the town, but we're seeing it throughout the world of just like a real nastiness to all the characters.

Jake:
[21:10] Yeah, it's very what's that movie? Eight millimeter. I've never seen that. I should I should I should watch that. But there's like that's that's what that's about is it's a guy watching snuff films in a little kind of old timey theater like that. It also has the vibe of that Don Draper meme where he's got his hand on his chin in the theater kind of thing. Uh feels like a thing from a bygone era like porno theaters and stuff like that which i want to say don't exist anymore but actually you know what i think i literally saw one the other day so yeah maybe that's still a thing that's just down this seedy underbelly of society.

Justin:
[21:46] I would love to go to one um because like most of the ones around the country were like queer porno theaters like you couldn't like get into and so they would play like all kinds of weird shit so you know i would love to go to an art house and have them play like uh i don't know that that uh what is it that weird surrealist gay porn where it starts off with them like frolicking in a meadow and it ends with them like fisting in a dungeon um

Jake:
[22:12] It's my latest special folks no i don't know what that is but that sounds uh that sounds like one of those types of things oh.

Justin:
[22:21] Yeah it's very well known one it's a classic

Jake:
[22:23] Like uh uh okay there's like a million things that are on the tip of my tongue there because there's all those old like 70s art house porn films like behind the green door or whatever how that's a straight porn i think but um i the idea of going to one of those porn theaters to me is like, I don't, I don't know where the lane for it to be actually a good time is for me because on the one hand, if it's actually something that is, that's going to turn me on, I don't want to be in a movie theater. I think, I think that's a thing that people did because they had to, it was like, if you were just out of politeness, you didn't look at each other while you're in there, I would imagine, you know, and like you hang out in your trench coat and your seat and your newspaper and shit. And then you jerk off in public and pretend like you're not around other people. Would imagine that's how it went in the past uh so that's weird that's why people watch porn on little rectangles at home now right on the other hand yeah if you're doing it for the kitsch well okay that's fun you go with your hipster friends you're drunk you know you we're gonna go to this porno theater then i feel like a fucking tourist if someone's in there trying to actually use the place for its intended purpose you know much like when a bunch of straight people crash a gay bar or something like that and i would feel like a dick so i don't know i don't know how exactly, a night out at the old time you part i think it works for me, that's.

Justin:
[23:50] I love the hang up you just discovered in yourself right there so i don't want to be a hipster

Jake:
[23:55] I don't want to be like, yeah it's like uh fucking like do i do a land acknowledgement first you know like uh it's just for the Lenape people or whatever.

Justin:
[24:13] Yeah, the one I'm thinking of is L.A. Plays itself. It's very good. There's a guy who sounds just like Chuck Tingle. Part of me thinks maybe it is him. It rules. Anyway. sounds cool we speaking of uh well okay first first we go back to the hotel where the two uh de blanc and fjord the two weird dudes from the government are at the sundowner motel and they're talking to the sheriff and they're like we work with the government there's a bad guy and then he like does this thing that cops do where they get like a thousand yard stare and tell you about some horrible story uh about what happened to them they're like it's just terrible this kid got murdered by a pretzel man um which who hasn't had a cop tell you a story like that

Jake:
[25:05] Yeah it's justifying why they decided to become a weird vigilante and what is he telling that him that story and like in response to though they're just saying that they're trying to find.

Justin:
[25:16] He just gets activated it's just literally a thing cops do they just go i just thought of something terrible i gotta tell you about yeah

Jake:
[25:24] He turns into like true detective type guy for a moment.

Justin:
[25:27] Yeah um so we go to uh donnie who's the henchman whose arm got broke and he's taking his son to his school bus so this is the guy who was beating his wife right right and then we found out it was beat it was extreme bdsm and so he's he's getting a weird moment where he's like trying to explain sex to his son yeah

Jake:
[25:53] He's also trying to explain like that type of sex so you could see he hasn't thought it out and when he kind of gets to the part where he's like she uh like it's funny you know he kind of just goes like adults are weird like don't they're complicated you know.

Justin:
[26:10] Yeah, he's a real Hank Hill moment. And so then the kid, we find out, is turning into like a little asshole at school because someone was badmouthing his dad or stepdad or whatever. And he was like, I beat him real bad. I made him cry. And he's like, all right. Good job.

Jake:
[26:34] Yeah, this guy, he his situation. The reveal about his thing with his wife being consensual was very funny but if you i recall we went over this last episode he's still a piece of shit everyone in the story is basically still a piece of shit so it's like uh it doesn't resolve that that plot line in a way where, preacher would have been in the wrong still he's still very much a cool anti-hero who is always right to have kicked a guy's ass yeah.

Justin:
[27:05] So far i can't remember what every single detail of people's asses he's

Jake:
[27:10] Kicked um.

Justin:
[27:11] But they uh we also see the bus pedophile who has forgotten the girl that preacher said forget her so now he literally cannot remember the little girl

Jake:
[27:21] And he's got like a bandage on his face from getting from whatever happened yeah so.

Justin:
[27:29] He says is it your first day and the other girl's like it's her 900th day and he's like uh what so

Jake:
[27:36] So did preacher not know he had mind control powers when he said forget her to him he thought he was just convincing him to forget her i.

Justin:
[27:45] Think it kind of it's like it's kind of like a it kind of takes control of preacher a little bit like when he starts using the voice he kind of like it's in a trance like later in the episode when he's telling donnie to put the gun in his mouth he's like becoming a different person he's getting like high off of the power

Jake:
[28:03] Yeah his eyes are jittering around and shit okay i see i right now he's dissociative because it's like a spirit in him got it yeah.

Justin:
[28:12] He's like still in control but he's like getting pulled into like a like a negative space

Jake:
[28:21] Okay and can he learn to master this thing or does it just you know it's just appear and do its own will through him this So I'm sure this will be part of the show.

Justin:
[28:34] Yep. So the, the insurance commercial guy, he's in a coffin outside. Cassidy has to handle the body, but it's daytime. Can't do it. Then he goes to check on Jesse and Jesse's sitting in the parlor or whatever. And he says, I got to show him something cut away to hold over by a cop. Cause she's speeding. She puts a gun. Under um her lap but then is like actually uh i'm a military i'm a former army person and she talks her way out of the ticket um it's very silly yeah oh we're supposed to think like what a cool lady which is you know it's a point of character right now

Jake:
[29:16] Fairly accurate joke about the uh like that situation you find yourself in in texas all the time with police because you um they are easy to manipulate if you understand their like code and philosophy and ideology there's like a bit in uh have you seen mo it's mo amer's show he's a palestinian comedian who lives in uh the neighborhood i grew up in houston this place called a leaf and i love the show because a leaf is such a weird specific thing that like no one understands it's like a weird working class shithole neighborhood that's like swampy and divey and stuff and anyway he's a really he's a fucking palestinian dude and there's like a plot line where him and his friends get pulled over while they're like crossing the border with a bunch of illegal shit in their car and they like pretend to be christian and they like improvise and make up like a you know fucking And what do you, the songs you sing in church is how not religious I am. I can't remember what that's called him or whatever. Um, but like, this is like, it's a, it's a trope for a reason. Cause like, if you can, if you can make that guy think he's a hero for letting you go, then you can get out of a ticket.

Jake:
[30:34] And, uh, you know, especially if you're whatever, use whatever thing about your personality to your advantage, but she's a hot lady. So that kind of works, but she tells him that she's trying to help her friend who's gone down a dark path and she would drive as fast. She would drive up 200 miles an hour to help him get off the devil's path or whatever. And then he gets to go like, all right, I'm gonna let you go. Oh.

Justin:
[30:59] Reminds me of this short little book I read one time about like the Great Plains history. And I think this is about reservation. And there's just like a chapter called Jesus Lives on the Res. And it's just about how he keeps a bobblehead of Jesus in his car. So when the cops harass him, they don't harass him as bad.

Jake:
[31:19] Yeah, no, for real. I mean, fucking policing down there is like that's a big part of it is getting pulled over all the time. That's legit. I think you should you should Jesus up your car. I know people that put those like there's these uh this thing called 100 club where you would like the 100 club you donate money to some fucking police officers society and they give you a sticker to put in the back of your car and people just put those in the back of their car because it would then you don't get pulled over or you get treated nicer and you know uh and it could be life or death so.

Justin:
[31:50] Yeah there was a dude in Florida in Florida you can have like a million different license plates and one of them is for like a police associations thing so you can get a custom license plate that's like a donation to the police association and i was like you know that's pretty smart and i was talking to another friend who's librarian he's like yeah my friend had one of them uh because he sold weed so that was why he always paid extra for the policemen's association drivers uh or license plate no for real so we go back to the meatpacking plant

Justin:
[32:25] And uh odin quincannon uh i finally have a good uh summary of the episodes and i've got like all the real actual characters names so it's a rorschach from from uh from watchman yeah watchman and he's sitting there listening to the sound of a a slaughterhouse while he's like hanging out in his office and then back at back at the uh church cassidy is like trying to work out uh how they can use jesse's power so jesse's like making them hop on one foot making a box says go faster go faster fly um and then they're like this is great um and they're trying to come up with like an idea but you can see cassidy scheming but nothing yet yeah they go back to the motel one of the uh guys from the government is watching the funeral of tom cruise who exploded right um because i i assume that means genesis went into him at some point and tried to use him oh

Jake:
[33:29] I see that makes sense.

Justin:
[33:31] Um and he seems this character gets a really really good episode later uh and i cannot wait uh for it because it's probably my favorite episode of the whole show um but he's sitting there like i think he's really affected by seeing Tom Cruise's dad. He seems really sad. And he's like, we're gonna go get Genesis. And he's like, mm-hmm. He's just glued to the TV.

Justin:
[33:59] He also reminds me of a Jambi in Pee Wee Herman. He's got a similar face structure. Especially later. Go back to the meatpacking plant. There's a letter from environmentalists and uh

Justin:
[34:18] It doesn't go anywhere. And he's like, clear my lunch tray. And he can't do it because his arm's broken. It's like, I got a right-hand man with no right hand. Cassidy's finally cremated the dude's body. And then he sees the two guys from the government drive by. And he goes, what the hell? Because they're in the same car. We jump around again. Jesse's driving down the road. Tulip comes up to him, pulls him over. They say, we're going to get this guy Carlos. And then he has a flashback of having shot a guard in the head. And they go, we're going to kill him. And he's like all right and then he goes with her we go back to the church Cassidy like the two guys are covered in like uh army equipment and then Cassidy just runs them over with the van killing them instantly he gets out he goes wait a minute I already killed you guys clones he's like a Dale Gribble kind of character totally um and he's just like I knew it i knew they'd be sending clones after me and uh goes inside um but then they regenerate and he's like what the hell and they're like we're not uh we're not vampire hunters i don't even know what a vampire is uh we're from heaven so you find out they're angels right and uh

Jake:
[35:32] Where they keep saying we're from the government you don't understand the bit now is they're from the, they call it that but it's heaven it's very clever real quick I just want to mention the flashback where we see Preacher not dressed as a Preacher is very jarring he's like a mob guy and he wears a suit.

Justin:
[35:51] He's got long hair yeah

Jake:
[35:52] He looks like 10 times more Italian or whatever his background is it's very weird.

Justin:
[35:58] Yeah very greasy it's great they um jesse and tulip are at the gas station and he gets confronted by uh donnie the broken arm guy pulls a gun on him says get on your knees uh you're gonna make the noise now and he's like i'm not gonna do it but don't worry i'll make it look like a suicide so they don't know i'll beat your ass twice and then he uses the voice to make him like go away sit down put the gun in his mouth really horrifying scene honestly the acting's pretty good uh and then it's where you see him kind of get caught up in the power and he's like uh put a gun down and then get out of here and then decides he's not gonna go kill carlos right

Jake:
[36:50] Right yeah and he lets him go and his eyes jitter while he's almost like i guess we don't really know is he almost having a moral dilemma he's gonna kill the guy or is he fighting for control with the genesis thing or maybe all of the above pretty cool.

Justin:
[37:09] Back at the church, the two men are talking to Cassidy and saying that people will die if they don't get the power out of Jesse. So they said they don't want anything. They don't want to do anything with it. It's not a power to be used. So just convince Jesse to give the power to him. And he's like, all right, I'll be a middleman. So just trust me. And then we jump back to uh the sheriff and eugene um our space and he's sitting there he's like how's your day dad and i was like yeah i missed eugene uh he's such a nice boy and he's like it's like how's your day and he's like oh you know everything's terrible and he says you find out Tracy Loach, the girl in the coma opened her eyes and he's like, you stay the hell away. Terrible things are out in this world. Do you want to get killed? And he's like, okay.

Jake:
[38:13] Yeah, he starts like opining about how the world they're in is a monster swamp is how he puts it. I think that's the name of the next episode. So it sets up whatever the hell is going to happen with his view of the world, which is very Hobbesian.

Justin:
[38:32] Yeah. And then we get a final cut of Back to the Church, where Jesse's holding a funeral for Ted, and only Emily shows up. So he's given the benediction to an empty funeral plot. And then we also see his father's grave, as we're zooming out, John Custer or whatever. right um is buried there

Jake:
[39:02] Yeah so yeah the d this made me think that's very sad if no one shows up to your funeral as someone who throws shows all the time it's giving me an extra pang of anxiety but also i am aware that there are ways to like to solve this problem so i was making me think like, if you have like a funeral that no one shows up to does the church like because this is what i would do if i was a church and this is also what an improv school would do if no one came to an improv show is you just have people from the church go to that and go hey you're getting free whatever this week if you guys go and fill some seats and uh, I don't know what's a darker reality, whether that's a thing or whether there are just empty funerals in this world. Either one of those bums me out quite a bit.

Justin:
[39:58] I mean, it makes you wonder, like throughout history, professional mourner has been like a thing where they want someone to show up at their funeral and like lose their shit and just be like, oh, no, what a great man he was and just like whale and whatever. And you wonder is like part of that the anxiety of having an empty funeral too or a funeral where people are too happy

Jake:
[40:20] Yeah uh i mean people joke about that a lot like paying someone to you know like some some comic i saw at some point i ever had a joke about paying a famous person to show up to their funeral and like i don't know who it was but it's you know you pay fucking, tom cruise or something and it's paying a lot of money to just not talk to anyone and cry and that way your friends all wonder you know stuff like that uh i don't know i i've been talking about funerals a lot with my friends lately because i'm dealing with one right now uh and it's but i'm a comic so my mind gets all fucked up and starts to make inappropriate jokes and stuff like that and think about the stuff so i've got a lot of this stuff hanging around my head and i'm thinking about them a lot because like uh i had a cousin who died who was like really cool he was really just like white trash and so he was like in his he kind of knew he was gonna die he had medical issues so he was like uh you know the funeral was planned to some degree and it was like no dress code fucking hang out have a good time and some of his white friends rapped like as their eulogy like it was fucking hilarious um and uh you know undignified but very in a good way very funny it can be a very funny thing.

Jake:
[41:42] But the guy who died in the show is like a perfect he's the guy who he was told to open his heart and then his heart exploded and it's very it's a good bit because he's like a ridiculous pathetic looking guy he's bald and he's got big glasses and stuff and he looks like a nerd and he's from a bunch of insurance commercials that's where I was trying to remember he's also I looked him up he's like from like you know he's like an improv type guy so he's just in a bunch of random stuff but not the main guy in anything um but his death and no one coming to it hit a hit a hit a chord struck a chord with me very bitter sweet dark joke good job preacher.

Justin:
[42:26] Yeah, especially considering his mother's presumably still alive because he opens his heart to her. Right. And so presumably she's still there, but didn't want to go to his funeral, even though he was completely devoted to her and always answering the phone and always asking preacher how to deal with her.

Jake:
[42:50] Yeah. And I know that's fucked up. um another little subtle elegant grim bit of comedy is that the fucking preacher guy custer jesse he's like reading some passage and there's some line in it about trumpets because it's the bible trumpets in there and as he's talking about the you know living on through yada yada and he mentions a trumpet the camera as it's panning out it passes like one of those pipes that has like a gas release like a little that's got a lid on it and it you know it releases gas and it flops open, while he's talking about like the trumpets of heaven or whatever and it's like you know the resurrection, right yeah I wonder if that's part of the monster swamp that's going to happen next week.

Justin:
[43:47] Maybe I really don't remember it's been a while So I'm trying not to watch ahead, even though I like really like this show. I'm just like, okay, we got to, we got to come at this like fresh, but yeah, I, yeah, you saw that throughout the episode. Like you see those pipes foreshadowing something cause it's clear, like it didn't get resolved this episode, but several times you would see these pipes and like gas is coming out of it. It's like, what's that about? But, uh, no resolution yet. early stuff they're really setting stuff up and again like i went and started reading the comics because i thought maybe we would do that and the pacing and setup is so completely different um like i really think like the show was a great opportunity to restructure the story because it's like it the the vibe is just so completely different from you know the the 90s kind of grim cool approach the comic was taking yeah

Jake:
[44:49] I mean i have no idea i haven't read it so couldn't say but it's definitely working on screen it's paced really well and there's all the all this foreshadowing and stuff and when when you do figure out something that has been alluded to a lot it's like a nice aha moment so i'm really excited to see where this grave gas resurrection thing is going i can like there's i get thematically what's going on there it's fun.

Justin:
[45:14] All right we'll wrap it up and then we'll uh We will be back soon and hopefully have some also, uh, we have a centers episode up on a Patreon. Uh, it was literally too copyrighted for me to even put it unlisted on YouTube. So it is hosted in Patreon. So you have to join it to see it there. Um, otherwise no one would be able to see it. So that's where it is. It was really good. Um, yeah. Anything else you want to plug? This will be out in a couple of days.

Jake:
[45:48] Uh, If you're in Los Angeles, come to my show. It's called Laugh Block. It's at the Lyric Hyperion, raising money for the vendors in MacArthur Park, the park I was talking about earlier in Los Angeles that they filmed that commercial in. They are kidnapping people off the streets. Many of them work as street vendors. So I'm doing a comedy show to raise money for the fund that helps those vendors. James Adomian is on the show. Really hilarious comic. You probably know if you're a podcast weirdo. um and like my friend ramin nazer sarah sobsi skylar higley from the onion lots of fun people i've got a noise musician who's gonna be the band who's been doing cool stuff he was doing shit at the uh anti-ice like uh no sleep for ice make noise outside of the hotels they're staying at yeah i saw this guy doing shit out there and i was like oh shit you should link up be part of our show um and yeah i don't know whatever listen to my other podcast pod damn america all that check me out on my upcoming appearance on the my little pony podcast that we alluded to earlier.

Justin:
[46:49] All right that's so cool yeah hey man drop your ice mix uh play that shit you were playing when we were keeping ice up that's fucking rules that's such a good like mix to release

Jake:
[47:01] Yeah for real he's good too i like his stuff seems tricky youth i want to say my phone's far away from me i can't I'll.

Justin:
[47:11] Find it and throw it in here.

Jake:
[47:13] Cool.

Justin:
[47:15] Alright. Good night.